seriously, what are the point of these. i saw them running around this winter, masquerading as winter coats, too. there's nothing to keep your bottom half warm, since the least amount of air would cause a huge draft. and you'd have to be wearing something long-sleeved under them, b/c the bell sleeves have the same problem. as far as a spring or summer jacket, they just don't look good. they accentuate your bottom torso, they're too poofy, and don't really flatter anyone!